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Remembering Ramones’ Debut At CBGB, 1974: “This Was Something Completely New”
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Remembering Ramones’ Debut At CBGB, 1974: “This Was Something Completely New”

Although they were still developing their style in 1974, Ramones had found a unique sound by the time they debuted at New York’s CBGB club.

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When Ramones were in their prime, their gigs were like military operations. Usually only punctuated by bassist Dee Dee Ramone’s frantic “one-two-three-four!” count-ins, the band rattled through one classic punk-pop song after another, leaving audiences in no doubt they’d just witnessed something unique. However, the group only attained this level of precision through constant performing, so it’s no surprise to discover they weren’t quite the finished article when they made their live debut at New York City’s famed CBGB club on 16 August 1974: an event which divided opinion both on and off the stage.

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The backstory: “These guys were not hippies”

In a 1978 NME interview, Ramones’ original drummer, Tommy Ramone, remembered how ramshackle the group’s live debut at CBGB had been: “Dee Dee would shout ‘one-two-three-four’ and everybody would start playing a different song.” Punk magazine co-founder Legs McNeil was notably more impressed, recalling in the documentary End Of The Century: The Story Of The Ramones, “They looked so striking. These guys were not hippies. This was something completely new.”

Ramones were certainly out to create something new, though it wouldn’t be labelled “punk” until the release of their influential, self-titled debut album in 1976. In fact, when they first began playing together, early in 1974, guitarist John Cummings, wannabe vocalist and guitarist Douglas Colvin and putative drummer Jeff Hyman had little to go on except enthusiasm and a collective love of classic 60s pop. They had, however, decided on a name.

Colvin (or, as he would soon dub himself, Dee Dee Ramone) recalled in a 2014 Record Collector interview, “There was a book my sister gave me by Hunter Davies about The Beatles. I read that Paul McCartney used to call himself ‘Paul Ramone’. That’s where I got [the name Ramones]. I was always infatuated with the early Beatles, when they had their leather jackets and they were playing Good Golly Miss Molly.”

He added, “There were not many good bass players at that time, [McCartney] was definitely innovative. He played more like a rock star than a bass player in those days.”

Despite choosing McCartney as his role model, Dee Dee initially wanted to sing and play guitar rather than bass. With John Cummings now rechristened Johnny Ramone, and Hyman going as Joey Ramone, the New York trio drafted in another friend, Richie Stern, to play bass. However, after a few tentative rehearsals, it was obvious Stern had little musical ability. When he dropped out, Dee Dee switched to bass and another friend, Tommy Erdelyi, took over as Ramones’ manager.

The first public rehearsal: “Dee Dee stepped on his bass guitar and broke its neck”

Tommy – who had played with Johnny in a high-school garage band called Tangerine Puppets during the late 60s – co-founded a rehearsal space known as Performance Studios on Manhattan’s East 20th Street, along with future Ramones tour manager Monte Melnick. As a result, the fledgling Ramones – with Joey still on drums – played their first, chaotic gig cum public rehearsal at this venue on 30 March 1974.

By this point, Johnny, Joey and Dee Dee had worked out rudimentary versions of what would become some of the best Ramones songs, including I Don’t Wanna Go Down To The Basement, I Don’t Wanna Walk Around With You and Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue, but it was obvious they still weren’t ready to make their proper live debut. Dee Dee couldn’t handle a full set of lead vocals, while Joey clearly wasn’t going to give Keith Moon a run for his money.

Blondie’s Debbie Harry, who attended the Performance Studios event, laughed when she recalled it for Everett True’s Hey Ho Let’s Go: The Story Of The Ramones. “It was hilarious,” she said. “Joey kept falling over. [He] couldn’t see very well, plus he had his shades on… all of a sudden, WHHHOMP, and he was lying face-down on this flight of stairs.”

In a 1976 interview with Punk magazine, Johnny acknowledged that this first foray was a disaster. “We were terrible,” he admitted. “Dee Dee was so nervous, he stepped on his bass guitar and broke its neck.”

Realising they had to go back to the drawing board before they made their official live debut, Ramones agreed that Joey (who had previously fronted NYC glam-rockers Sniper) should return to the microphone. They also auditioned drummers, but soon became fatigued by a string of Carmine Appice wannabes sporting big hair and even bigger drum kits.

Indeed, it soon became apparent that manager Tommy Erdelyi was the man they’d been looking for all along. A recording engineer by trade, with sessions with the likes of Herbie Hancock and Jimi Hendrix’s Band Of Gypsys on his CV, Erdelyi had little experience behind the kit, yet he knew exactly what Ramones required.

“I’d never played drums before, but I could sit down and show these other drummers what they should be playing,” Tommy recalled in the sleevenotes for Rhino’s Hey Ho! Let’s Go: The Anthology box set. “Since nobody else seemed to be able to play it, I said I’d try it!”

“Tommy was able to unite the others over his backbeat,” Rolling Stone’s David Fricke told Ramones biographer Everett True in 2002, “which you’d think anybody could’ve done, but then you’d think anybody could be Ringo Starr. It’s not possible because most drummers can’t sit still long enough to play a simple beat… [Tommy] knew that simplicity was king.”

Ramones’ live debut at CBGB: “Like Beethoven over one and a half minutes”

With Tommy Ramone on board and their set honed, Ramones finally made their official live debut at CBGB – its name standing for “country, bluegrass and blues” – on the Bowery, on 16 August 1974. This legendary venue has since been cited as the hothouse for the New York punk scene, with Television, Blondie, Talking Heads and more effectively treating it as a second home throughout the mid-70s.

However, while Entertainment Weekly later proclaimed Ramones’ live debut at CBGBs to be “one of the greatest moments in rock”, the group’s short, chaotic set produced a range of responses at the time. CBGB’s founder, Hilly Kristal (who went on to book the band 21 more times in 1974 alone), initially described Ramones as “the most un-together band I’ve ever heard”, while Marc Bell (the future Marky Ramone) noted that “the image with the leather jackets wasn’t developed yet in ’74. John would wear the gold lamé pants from the glam days. The image wasn’t planned. They grew into it. The bickering was all part of it as well.”

Yet, even on this embryonic first outing, Ramones’ future genius was on full display for some of those in the audience.

“They were fantastic, 20 songs in 15 minutes, one after the other, one-minute, two-minute songs,” original Blondie bassist Gary Valentine recalled in Hey Ho Let’s Go: The Story Of The Ramones. “There was this tacit, pent-up notion of violence in the background, but on stage, they were a lot of fun, in a Saturday-morning cartoon, ‘Hey hey, we’re the Ramones’ way.

“Even though all the songs were different, they all sounded the same,” Valentine added. “It was like Beethoven over one and a half minutes, with Joey Ramone mumbling over the top.”

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